I've been debating with my friends about this for years " is their any legite reason why gay marriage should be banned "

Pleas only intelligent people answer this, i don't want redneck Homophobes, but people who have a political response to this controversy

My answer is no.
Is does not affect anyone but those who are getting married.

I found your question to be hilarious. It actually doesn't deserve a response.

Yes. Gay marriage is just another perversion by liberals and homosexuals (the "homosexual mafia"). I mean...you need to be realistic in this and not perverted by the lies that are rampant in this society. So what would be next if the homosexual mafia gets their way???? Beastiality?

Every culture in the history of the world has marriage between a man and a woman. From a biblical standpoint, Romans 1:18-32 talks about God's wrath against mankind. Verses 26-27 says " 26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."

Currently, homosexuals already have a legal means to obtain the same rights, like that of a marriage through the domestic partnership agreement. For homosexuals to say they can't do that is a down right LIE! The homosexual mafia just wants to pervert marriage just like they perverted the rainbow and the word "gay". Enough is enough!

As to my thoughts about what has been happening with Miss California, Carrie Prejean. Today, we heard the awesome news that Carrie will not lose her crown! It is also incredible of the amount of name-calling and hateful and life-threatening speech by the homosexual mafia. Just incredible. Why does the American public have to be forced to be tolerant about polictical issues, whereas the homosexual mafia shows themselves as intolerant? The homosexual mafia lives by a double standard as well as all liberals. When Christians speak out against the homosexual lifestyle, the liberals and the homosexual mafia consider that hate speech. But when the liberals and the homosexual mafia threatens the life of a Christian woman, that is not hate speech????

It's also funny how Carrie gets picked out and scorned for her photos. Miss Rhode Island did the same kind of pictures. Where is the media scorn for Miss Rhode Island? See...another example of the "double standard".

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Originally posted by Zer0:
I've been debating with my friends about this for years " is their any legite reason why gay marriage should be banned "

Pleas only intelligent people answer this, i don't want redneck Homophobes, but people who have a political response to this controversy

Yes, marriage is a type of relationship that is recognized as marriage by society and by the government. Allowing gay marriage is an expansion of that definition to include other types of relationships. I believe, based on what the Bible says, that marriage should not include same-sex relationships.

We have to draw a line somewhere for what is marriage and what isn't. Because of what I believe, that is where I think the line should be drawn.

Other people want to draw the line in a different place to allow any two adults to marry. But they want to keep marriage to be only between two people and not among other numbers of people.

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Yes. Gay marriage is just another perversion by liberals and homosexuals (the "homosexual mafia"). I mean...you need to be realistic in this and not perverted by the lies that are rampant in this society. So what would be next if the homosexual mafia gets their way???? Beastiality?

Every culture in the history of the world has marriage between a man and a woman. From a biblical standpoint, Romans 1:18-32 talks about God's wrath against mankind. Verses 26-27 says " 26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."

using the bible holds no ground in this argument considering we live in a government with seperation of church and state ( thank god )

the " if gay marriage is legal so will beastiality" also holds no ground, being that in the 1800's it was also illegle in some states to have interracial marriages, if you were in the 1800's in the southern states would you call inter racial marriage an abomination.

Zero, if we lived in a nation with 'separation of church and state' then Government would have no say in the 'marriage' issue at all. Marriage has been a religious institution for thousands of years.

Government jurisdiction is over 'civil unions'.

We SHOULD have protection of religious institutions against Government interference but the Left clearly is trying to use Government to dictate terms to religion. That is prohibited by our Constitution

As the 10th Amendment says, whatever powers are not explicitly granted to Government by the Constitution belong to The People.

California handled the issue properly with Proposition 8. But Lefties don't believe in democracy either, when it doesn't go the way they want it to.

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Originally posted by Speak2Truth:
Zero, if we lived in a nation with 'separation of church and state' then Government would have no say in the 'marriage' issue at all. Marriage has been a religious institution for thousands of years.

Government jurisdiction is over 'civil unions'.

We SHOULD have protection of religious institutions against Government interference but the Left clearly is trying to use Government to dictate terms to religion. That is prohibited by our Constitution

As the 10th Amendment says, whatever powers are not explicitly granted to Government by the Constitution belong to The People.

California handled the issue properly with Proposition 8. But Lefties don't believe in democracy either, when it doesn't go the way they want it to.

then how come YOU and the churches against gay marriage don't speak out against atheists being married, the truth is marriage has evolved outside church juridiction.


and did you know gay marriage would help small businesses with gay couples getting their wedding supplies from local businesses, like; cakes, renting, apparels and decor, flowers, honeymoon, food,engagement rings, and marriage rings. actually economists say with the legalization of gay marriage it would produce 220 jobs, and over a billion in revenues in california.

So, you think what's good for business should dictate our social customs. All kneel down and pay homage to the mighty dollar. Well, I disagree.

The People of this State demonstrated what Marriage means to The People of this State - and Leftists and gay activist groups simply will not accept our society's definition of marriage.

Now, in true Fascist manner, they try to FORCE society to accept the definition they want.

The people of California decided that gay marriage will not be allowed, not our government, courts or by any other means. If gay people wish to be married, there are a few other states they can get this done. I'm for the same benefits as married opposite sex couples, just don't call it a marriage.

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Originally posted by Zer0:
using the bible holds no ground in this argument considering we live in a government with seperation of church and state ( thank god )

the " if gay marriage is legal so will beastiality" also holds no ground, being that in the 1800's it was also illegle in some states to have interracial marriages, if you were in the 1800's in the southern states would you call inter racial marriage an abomination.

First of all, the separation of church and state is all about keeping the government from instituting a national religion. And that includes athesiem. Yet, the government is starting to push atheism as the national religion. Webster say's, atheism is "a disbelief in the existence of deity; the doctrine that there is no deity". That's a religion in my opinion.

Second, what I am saying is that if gay marriage becomes legal, then what is next. A push for further perversion of marriage such as an adult marrying an animal (beastality)? Perverting marriage only will open up a can of worms for further perversion.

Also, your argument that gay marriage helps the economy holds not ground at all. That's nothing but sacrificing you high standards for the all mighty dollar. Integrity is lost.

Webster defines homosexuality as 1) the state of being homosexual and 2) erotic activity with another of the same sex. In the Bible, Romans 1: 26-27 talks about how “women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.” The Bible is clearly talking about homosexuality. You can pervert this all you want. It is still the truth. The Bible tells of the consequences of homosexuality.

I have nothing against homosexuals. God loves them too. God gives us choices on how to live our lives. God gives us guidance on how to live our lives and also provides us warnings of the things not to do. In the end, we all will be judged by God.

Marriage is a social institution and as such it is up to society to define. No one has a right to demand acceptance but that is exactly the ridiculous argument set forth by the gay advocates. Freedom means nothing if we are not free to set our own moral standards unencumbered by coercion from the government or the courts. Make your case to the people and let society decide what is in their best interests. If the Court steps in proclaims you have the right to marry, will that change one mind or make one less person wince when you introduce your "spouse"?

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Originally posted by Maranatha:

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Originally posted by Zer0:
using the bible holds no ground in this argument considering we live in a government with seperation of church and state ( thank god )

the " if gay marriage is legal so will beastiality" also holds no ground, being that in the 1800's it was also illegle in some states to have interracial marriages, if you were in the 1800's in the southern states would you call inter racial marriage an abomination.

First of all, the separation of church and state is all about keeping the government from instituting a national religion. And that includes athesiem. Yet, the government is starting to push atheism as the national religion. Webster say's, atheism is "a disbelief in the existence of deity; the doctrine that there is no deity". That's a religion in my opinion.

Second, what I am saying is that if gay marriage becomes legal, then what is next. A push for further perversion of marriage such as an adult marrying an animal (beastality)? Perverting marriage only will open up a can of worms for further perversion.

Also, your argument that gay marriage helps the economy holds not ground at all. That's nothing but sacrificing you high standards for the all mighty dollar. Integrity is lost.

no one is asking to have relations with a goat though.

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Originally posted by Speak2Truth:
So, you think what's good for business should dictate our social customs. All kneel down and pay homage to the mighty dollar. Well, I disagree.

The People of this State demonstrated what Marriage means to The People of this State - and Leftists and gay activist groups simply will not accept our society's definition of marriage.

Now, in true Fascist manner, they try to FORCE society to accept the definition they want.

just like how christians forced thier beliefs with marriage on gays

would you be for the eradication of athiest marriages?

ok don't be complaining when taxes are raised, because gay marriage would've lowered , and or erased those taxes.