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Originally posted by Bearstrap:
What was the cost to Tax Payers for this 4.4 million plant victory. Millions ? $$$ Billions ?


Can we afford this kind of victory ??

My father was a boot legger back in the late 20's- early 30's. He told me that when Prohibition ended, it put him out of business.

For the 40 years of of my adult life, { 20-60 } I have had such trouble figuring out why politicians can not learn from history !!

Make Marijuana legal and all this will end !! It is legal for you to make your own wine, beer and hard liquor now--but how many are doing it ??

American people are lazy. When Phillip Morris puts marijuana in a package with a filter on it, this growing in the hills with guns stuff will end.

Put a tax on it. Between the tax and what we would save in fighting it--maybe some real crime fighting could be funded.

How right you are! As far as people being against dope (for good reason), sorry, you are not going to stop people from using, any more than you will stop people from drinking, smoking tobacco, overeating, gambling etc.
California needs to be pulled out of the dumper.
Maybe we could tax our biggest cash crop??

Illegal aliens are scum.

The prestige of government
has undoubtedly
been lowered considerably
by the Prohibition law.
For nothing is more destructive
of respect for the government
and the law of the land
than passing laws which
cannot be enforced.
It is an open secret that
the dangerous increase of crime
in this country
is closely connected with this.

ALBERT EINSTEIN,
My First Impression of the U.S.A.,
1921

gudbyswetamerica.... sorry we were here before 1846... and we will be here long after 2009.. lol... but i agree cut it all down... u making my "indoor".... more valuable.. "America what a country"... lol lol lol

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Originally posted by trueright:

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Originally posted by e988o:
Breaking the record just means that the so-called "war on drugs" is losing. It really means that the rate of production is way way up.

When is this insane 'war' on moral behavior going to end? Half the people in jail are there because of victimless crime laws.

I hope I get called for jury duty for a drug case: I will nullify that jury.

Hopefully you'll be thrown in prison when that happens. Terrorist.

MPK replies: Trueright, you might want to go to Link and read up. Realize that E9880 would simply be exercising his constitutional rights. You do know about constitutional rights, don't you?? Juries have serious obligations and serious rights. The judge and the rest of the court system would prefer that we the citizens who pay their salaries NOT know about these rights. I suggest everybody read up at Link and if you want out of jury duty, just mention it when you're questioned, and you will be GONE. But if you want to do your duty the right way, be aware and spread the word.

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Originally posted by Max Gross:

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Originally posted by Crackerjack:
Legalizing dope isn't the answer. There is a reason it is called dope. Do you get my drift?

I get it and so did the Chinese. Singapore has no drug problem. Remember the story of the young Aussie bloke who was hanged for having some weed in his backpack?

There must be a better way. I just don't know what it is.

Considering China's human rights and economic history, I would hesitate to use any of their methods as a model.

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Posted 05 November 2009 06:47 AM Hide Post
Legalizing dope isn't the answer. There is a reason it is called dope. Do you get my drift?

So what is the answer? The only dopes I see are the ones crusading against liberty. Only a dope would blindly obey a government like ours without using common sense.

The argument that it's illegal, therefore morally wrong is laughable. Slavery only a few hundred years ago was perfectly legal. Forced castration of prison inmates was legal in the early 1900's in Ill. There have been hundreds of laws that are morally wrong.

If you are against something, you shouldn't do it. You have no right to force values on others. The reason it was referred to as "The pursuit of happiness" is just that. Each individuals pursuit is their own. If I or someone else chooses a path you find objectionable. Take heart in the knowledge that you are the superior moral compass. Don't in a "free society" impose slavery when people pursue happiness (However short lived it may be)

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Considering China's human rights and economic history, I would hesitate to use any of their methods as a model.

Oh you mean the economics that are financing U.S debt? The Chinese every day are embracing freedom in both their markets and their societies. Some day they could break loose from communist control. Due to things like the drug war we are opting for slavery. Our future seems to look bleak not hopeful.

YEE-HA!!!

Another Record!

As quoted from the article, "An All Time High!"

Hahahahah

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Originally posted by bakerific49:

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Posted 05 November 2009 06:47 AM Hide Post
Legalizing dope isn't the answer. There is a reason it is called dope. Do you get my drift?

So what is the answer? The only dopes I see are the ones crusading against liberty. Only a dope would blindly obey a government like ours without using common sense.

The argument that it's illegal, therefore morally wrong is laughable. Slavery only a few hundred years ago was perfectly legal. Forced castration of prison inmates was legal in the early 1900's in Ill. There have been hundreds of laws that are morally wrong.

If you are against something, you shouldn't do it. You have no right to force values on others. The reason it was referred to as "The pursuit of happiness" is just that. Each individuals pursuit is their own. If I or someone else chooses a path you find objectionable. Take heart in the knowledge that you are the superior moral compass. Don't in a "free society" impose slavery when people pursue happiness (However short lived it may be)

If you are against something you certainly do have a right to force values on others. Murder. Child molestation. Stealing. Assault. The list is long. Need I go on? Society needs enforceable laws. Get involved if you want to be the one to help make or overturn them. Breaking them only gets you arrested. Pretending no one has a right to force you to line up with their moral values is foolish. We have the right to force our will on others in a civilized society. That is what makes us civilized.

How the hell can you compare smoking a joint to murder? Governments job is to protect rights, not enforce values. While many societies are based on the idea that using force to impose ideas is just. Ours does not, or at least wasn't. In a FREE society in which the utmost care was given to the protection of INDIVIDUAL rights it is illegal to infringe upon the rights of others.

So, what that means is I can't

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Murder. Child molestation. Stealing. Assault

or I would be violating the rights of others. I hope you can understand this I know you gave up your god given ability to think for yourself long ago.

No Don C I do not think I'm the foolish one, or the one who needs a lesson in morals. I live my life for myself and am not concerned with the plight of a hysterical and frantic society. Using force to break the will of free minded individuals is always wrong even if it's done in the name of the public good. North Korea's "civilized" to ya know?

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Originally posted by Fiscal Conservative:

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Originally posted by 1960's_St_Rose_Survivor:
I know lots of people that are fine with growing for personal use, but are freaked out about the criminal gangs growing pot on their land, leaving garbage, pesticides, animal traps and intimidating residents. What to do?

If a high THC pot plant gets pollinated, it lowers the potency content dramatically. Maybe residents can grow low grade rope hemp as a defensive measure, or law enforcement can sprinkle the low THC hemp pollen over growing areas. Worth a try?

Yeah....lets get right on that.

Grow some weed as a defensive measure agaist high THC weed and then we'll pay the County to fly around in Henry-1 with some moron former SRJC Biology teacher know-it-all, on the public dole, sprinkling pixie dust.

We'll use the gold from the end of the rainbow to pay for it.

Dear Fiscal Conservadouche.......

You DO Realize that a record "take" would also indicate record "Expenditures".....

Do you think the method used now is free?

Pollenating from one or even several helicopters would be FAR FAR FAR Cheaper..

Than the current 50-100 choppers humvees thousands of men feds and locals, trucks , bulldozers, gas, airplane fuel, food, shelter.

You think your not paying for local LEO's to be there now? Bwaaahahahahahahahahahaha.

GOD you're not smart even a wee bit.

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Originally posted by Don C:
We have the right to force our will on others in a civilized society. That is what makes us civilized.

WOW just wow.

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Originally posted by bakerific49:
How the hell can you compare smoking a joint to murder?

Drug dealers are murdering our society, that's how! Dealers are terrorists and deserve to be shot. And dope smokers are guilty of treason.

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Originally posted by trueright:

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Originally posted by bakerific49:
How the hell can you compare smoking a joint to murder?

Drug dealers are murdering our society, that's how! Dealers are terrorists and deserve to be shot. And dope smokers are guilty of treason.

It seems like you would like to kill anyone that doesn't think like you do. Have you ever considered getting some psyche help? You certainly need it.

People that think like you do are extremely dangerous. Quoting the Bible all the time and declaring death to the unfaithful. Kind of sounds like you are American Taliban.

As for me, you're going into ignore because you make no sense and only preach hate and division.