Since this thread I opened will soon disappear with the "old board"...

Sustainability, as it relates to the "greening" of our environment, has become the new mantra of the religion / cult that sprang up from the modern environmental movement. This article, linked at the Financial Post, exposes the movement for what it is.

You greens and progressives aren't going to like being called on your junk... but the truth is not always a pleasant thing. Deal with it before our economies are destroyed and we all become slaves of government dependent upon the all powerful state for our daily crumbs of bread.

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Cracks in the core of sustainability
Peter Foster, Financial Post
Published: Tuesday, April 15, 2008

Is the non-principle of "sustainability" about to collapse under the weight of its own mushy contradictions? News this week from the seemingly unrelated areas of biofuels and health policy provide some hope.

Sustainability has been smuggled into the policy lexicon as an Orwellian dumber-down of debate. Who would promote unsustainability? It has become the weasel word and policy tic of our time. Corporate chieftains, politicians, consultants and public intellectuals all bow the knee before this founding concept of environmental Newspeak.

Its origins as a subversive political principle lay in the United Nations' Brundtland report, which coined "sustainable development" as a counterattack against the resurgent forces of free-market capitalism in the late 1980s. Designed to induce a warm fuzzy feeling of stewardship of the planet, the poor and the future, its true meaning was hinted at by the fact that it was hatched by a bunch of self-confessed socialists, led by Gro Harlem Brundtland and Canada's own Maurice Strong. Sustainability was the new "S" word, behind which lurked all the power lust and exploitation of economic ignorance that had given the old "S" word its power. Before, that is, the old "S" word had collapsed in a heap.

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The old interventionism was all about government ownership and central planning. The new interventionism is all about carbon taxes and or cap-and-trade to set the "right" prices so that we might regulate not just the world economy but the weather too!Why do so few people recognize that this is not just utterly ridiculous but profoundly dangerous to our freedom and our future?

The alleged severity of the problem (which is grossly exaggerated because it provides a new rationale for an old and ineradicable urge) in no way validates the application of methods that have always and everywhere failed in the past. Instead, that problem is either simply assumed away, or treated as an issue of insufficient "will" or "commitment."

yep, i can see already that the PD administrators are going to regret ever adding this topic to the forum.

It's quite obvious that few seems to know anything about Local Agenda 21.

Think globally, act locally.

Local Agenda 21's plan for a Sustainable Development.

ICLEI's step-by-step plan for transforming communities was made available to reporters during the 1996 UN Conference on Human

Settlements (Habitat II). I started to read my bulky copy on the flight home from Istanbul. I soon learned how Stakeholders can broaden their working base and still maintain the original consensus: they simply seek partners who share their vision. After all, partners who challenge the Stakeholders' ideology would cause gridlock and slow progress. (Such gridlock is one of many criticism of the American political system voiced at various global conferences.)

The ICLEI Planning Guide suggests that Stakeholders select two kinds of people to serve their agenda: (1) ordinary people who don't have "a stake" in the old system and would expect to gain power by establishing a new political system, and (2) media, business, political, church, and education leaders who must be wooed and persuaded to promote the transformation within their sphere of influence. The following ICLEI list includes both:

A. Community Residents: women, youth, indigenous people, community leaders, teachers

B. Community-Based Organizations: churches, formal women's groups, traditional social groups, special interest groups

C. Independent Sector: Non-governmental organizations (NGO). academia, media

D. Private/Entrepreneurial Sector: environmental service agencies, small business/cooperatives, banks

E. Local Government and Associations: elected officials, management staff, regional associations

F. National/Regional Government: planning commission, utilities, service agencies, financial agencies.7

All participants must embrace the collective vision of a "sustainable community". They must commit to pursue the three E's of "sustainable development": Environment, Economy and Equity referring to the UN blueprint for environmental regulations, economic controls, and social equity.

"Sustainable development is a process of bringing these three development processes into balance with each other," states ICLEID's Agenda 21 Planning Guide on page 21. "The implementation of a sustainable development strategy therefore involves negotiation among the primary interest groups (stakeholders) involved in these development processes. Once an Action Plan for balancing these development processes is established, these stakeholders must each take responsibility and leadership to implement the plan."

Meanwhile, opposing voices must be silenced. "Implementing the 'sustainable agenda' requires marginalizing critics," says Craig Rucker, Executive Director of CFACT, a conservative public interest group in Washington, D.C. dealing with consumer and environmental issues. He explains,

Distinguished scientists who disagree with the globalist agenda are ridiculed and said to speak for conservative interests or industry (whether or not they receive industry funding) and their scientific arguments are never heard. Some of these marginalized critics are very distinguished scientists, like Dr. Frederic Seitz, former president of the National Academies of Science and a sharp critic of ozone depletion and global warming theories, Dr. S. Fred Singer, who help establish the satellite and balloon measuring devices to track global warming, and Dr. Edward Krug, who served on NAPAAP, among others. Some, like Dr. William Happer were even fired from their jobs questioning environmental dogma (in his case, on the issue of ozone depletion).8

Ignoring these facts, nearly two thousand communities around the world are following this UN blueprint for change with support from ICLEID - and subject to its tracking system. Apparently the Santa Cruz model is leading the way in the United States.
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Since 1992 when President Bush Sr. signed the Bill and later in 1996 when President Clinton enacted the policy, more and more progressive people have become involved in local political matters, getting elected to local boards and offices to further promote "Sustainable Development."

Local Agenda 21

New World Order Rising?

Thoughts on the UN World Summit on Sustainable Development

by Steven Yates

Having begun on August 26 and continuing on through September 4, the World Summit on Sustainable Development (WSSD) in Johannesburg, South Africa is what may be the largest confab the United Nations has ever sponsored. WSSD commemorates the ten-year anniversary of the adoption of Agenda 21 at the Earth Summit in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil back in 1992. Over 100 world leaders, thousands of delegates, CEOs, representatives of non-governmental organizations (NGOs), and other dignitaries and elites – over 20,000 people in all – have descended on the Sandton Convention Center in South Africa’s largest city. Moreover, as WSSD has approached the American public has been treated to a stready stream of new articles and so-called studies on how, if we do not change our ways and adopt "sustainable" behaviors and patterns of economic growth, environmental disaster (global warming, deforestation, extinction of species, etc.) is right around the corner. So the time has come to stop talking about Agenda 21 and take action.

Welcome to ICLEI's California Region!


List of Members

Thanks, Ferrous.
Of course, all the one world government socialists who feel guilt (and that is what drives them - a pathalogical guilt about just about everything, and a good dose of hatred of humanity and themselves) about the fairly free western nations having a good standard of living will deny their real goal of leveling the world standard of living at about the level of Sudan. Or maybe Ethiopia. Except that they would reserve for themselves and their friends nice cars, large estates, and all the trappings of wealth and power that they decry when others partake of them.

Remember that both President Bush Sr. sign the bill. President Clinton enacted the policy, and GW Bush has promoted it.

In the early 90's the Santa Cruz Local Agenda 21 was one of the first areas to mobilize.

The catch phrase "Think Globally, Act Locally" was their mantra. In mobilizing, they urged like minded Progressives to become active in their local communities and politics. Agenda 21 activists literally took over local governments.

Just look at the list of "Local Governments for Sustainability (ICLEI",)among them beside Berkeley and San Francisco we will see Santa Rosa, Rohnert Park, Petaluma, Windsor, Healdsburg, Cloverdale, Novato, San Rafael ect.

What I finds surprising is that Sebastopol was left off of the list.

Local Agenda 21:

1992 United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (Earth Summit), held in Rio de Janeiro on June 14 where 179 governments voted to adopt the programme.
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The implementation of Agenda 21 was intended to involve action at international, national, regional and local levels. Some national and state governments have legislated or advised that local authorities take steps to implement the plan locally, as recommended in Chapter 28 of the document. Such programmes are often known as 'Local Agenda 21' or 'LA21'.

Localizing Agenda 21

Blah, blah, blah, blah, God, you people are boring. You cut and paste your blathering right-wing articles and complain, complain complain!

Sustainability is a noble goal for any business. It is simply "a characteristic of a process or state that can be maintained at a certain level indefinitely." It is important to strive for sustainability because we are trashing our planet! With finite resources, we can't continue doing things as we currently are. So, progress towards the goal of sustainability is necessary. Get it!?

So then you will get the Chinese and East Indians to sign onto Kyoto and subsequent protocols. You do know that both of those nations are "trashing" far more than we in the United States are, don't you?

Or is this simply let's make the US a third rate power because you feel guilty about our nation's successes over the past 230 plus years?

The concept of "sustainability", like anthropogenic global warming, and the ozone hole and population bombs before it, is a hoax. It is a con designed to get people and corporations to spend money to try and solve problems that are either non-existant and hysteria driven (CO2 as a greenhouse gas, the wrongheaded rush to biofuel) or that have some merit but have been enhanced and repackaged by the alarmists (widespread adoption of solar power by businesses and homeowners).

Put simply... Al Gore is doing what he is doing not out of altruism. He is out to make a buck, a very big buck in fact. Don't believe me? How about NPR?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16227362

In fact, just a couple of months ago he quite frankly told an audience at the TED Conference in Monterey that he has stakes in a number of "green investments" and recommended investments to the audience.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/04/11/g...bal-warming-hysteria

Remember it was then Vice President Gore in 1994 who cast the deciding vote that put us on the road to Ethanol... which uses more energy to produce than it ultimately produces itself. Which produces more CO2 than gasoline alone. That is driving up food prices and reducing food stocks worldwide.

Wonder if he has a stake in that too?

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Originally posted by saunterelle:
Blah, blah, blah, blah, God, you people are boring. You cut and paste your blathering right-wing articles and complain, complain complain!

Sustainability is a noble goal for any business. It is simply "a characteristic of a process or state that can be maintained at a certain level indefinitely." It is important to strive for sustainability because we are trashing our planet! With finite resources, we can't continue doing things as we currently are. So, progress towards the goal of sustainability is necessary. Get it!?

Ah, yes, and all your posts are completely your own, unifluenced by any political agenda, and you NEVER cut and paste. And, of course, all your leftist, socialist sources are 100% pure, above reproach, and never let a political agenda drive their research.

Yes, sustainability is a noble goal. BUT the way it is being used now is as a socialist tool to redistribute wealth and resources, it is anything but sustainable. And, the results of their plans would not be sustainable. Those who produce would soon tire of having the products of their labors taken and given to others. Productivity would drop, and the Utopian 'sustainable lifestyle' would fall like the house of cards it is.

All you have to do is read the literature that the - sustainablists? - put out. Not the stuff for general consumption, but for the True Believers, and look at the underhanded and less than honest tactics that they use.

Their self-hatred and guilt drives them. And, since they consider themselves to be oh so superior to everyone else, they feel justified in using any methods to push their socialist agenda to asuage thier guilt. Unfortunately, their self imposed penance for their guilt and supposed sins will drag the rest of us down with them.

If they want truely sustainable lifestyle, they need to walk into some back country and learn to knap flint. I'm sure they would be much happier living at the hunter-gatherer level. Those of them that would hunt anyway. I guess the rest would just have to try to live at a gatherer level.

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Originally posted by saunterelle:
Blah, blah, blah, blah, God, you people are boring. You cut and paste your blathering right-wing articles and complain, complain complain!

All I do is complain, complain, complain.

My Carbon Footeprint is 0.75 while the national average is 7.5.

Seems I have been doing something more than complaining.

Carbon Calculator

I am holding off on installing a solar array panel for my home until technology comes up with a more efficient collectors and batteries.

The new Polymer solar cells being developed might be one of the answers.

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