North Carolina Rep. Virginia Foxx made a speech on the House floor, and in that speech she said that people have more to fear from Democrat Obama-PelosiCare legislation than from terrorists. She says that it is the greatest threat to our freedom. Foxx said that she believes "we have more to fear from the potential of that bill passing than we do from any terrorist right now in any country."


The MUSLIM terrorists targeted people. They killed 3000. We fought back. The loss of the 3000 people will be mourned forever by friends and families and will be remembered by Americans. America, however, recovered. This country will survive the ISLAMIC terrorist attacks.

It may not be so for Obama-PelosiCare. A government takeover of our health care system will do more than the Islamic terrorists to cause permanent damage to our Republic. The amounts of money we will have to borrow from China and Europe to fund this takeover will be a burden on generations of Americans to come. You can't say that about the Islamic terrorist attacks. The terrorists didn't rob tens of millions of Americans of their sense of independence. Obama-PelosiCare will. The Islamic terrorist attacks did not permanently reduce the quality of health care in the United States. Obama-PelosiCare will. The Islamic terrorist attacks did not destroy health care innovation in the United States. Obama-PelosiCare will.

Virginia Foxx is right. The Islamic terrorists can only dream of harming America the way the Democrats takeover of health care will.

We fought back by invading a country that had nothing to do with the attack on 9/11.

We won't have to borrow as much from China as we did for the wars we are currently waging.

By the way, ask your parents or grandparents what they think of Medicare. Mine love it and it is run by the government.

We need healthcare reform. I pull credit every day and do you know what I see on a large portion of them? Collections for medical bills. Most of these people have insurance, but the coverage is weak.

Do you have kids? If they plan on working for themselves, you better hope they don't have any medical conditions now. Asthma, pre-existing condition, any female issues would have a good chance of being a pre-existing condition. Bad knee from high school sports could be a pre-existing condition. It is going to be very difficult to get health insurance for many of these kids as they become adults.

We need healthcare reform, but not the dream that the Liberals have for it.

When it comes to achieving the Democrats dreams and schemes, there is nothing that will stand in their way. Not even that pesky little thing called the Constitution. Republican Senator Orrin Hatch put it all in perspective recently. He does not believe that the Democrat plans for healthcare are justifiable. He says that if the federal government can force Americans to buy health insurance "then there is literally nothing the federal government can't force us to do."

Ain't that the truth?

First it is healthcare. Then what? What comes next for the Democrats to achieve their goal of making you more and more dependent on government? Orrin Hatch's point is that right now, the Constitution still remains a "barrier" for the Democrats. But if they get their way with healthcare, the levies will be broken. There will be nothing stopping them from trampling over what is left of our Constitution.

Please prove me wrong on the costs of these wars. Call me all of the names you want, there's no denying that these "wars" have cost our country in more ways than just financial.

If you don't want to use the governments plan, continue with your current coverage. I would and plan on doing so.

By the way Capt. I normally look forward to what you post, whether I agree or not, but your name calling is really beneath you.

Just like with auto insurance, the people who don't have it cost all of us in the end.

Islamists want to subject Americans to tyranny under a foreign ideology.

Democrats are beating them to it.

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Originally posted by mimigirl:
If you don't want to use the governments plan, continue with your current coverage. I would and plan on doing so.

Under the Democrat plan, you still have to pay for the Government Plan whether you use it or not.

The "option" is to additionally pay for your own private plan, which the more wealthy might want to do considering the shortcomings of government-run health care.

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We fought back by invading a country that had nothing to do with the attack on 9/11.

Small-minded people forget that President Clinton called off the temporary cease-fire with Iraq back in 1998 and, with the Iraq Liberation Act, committed the US to use of military force to destroy Saddam's regime.

And, yes, Saddam happily took credit for his victory on 9/11. Iraq's attacks on the US began shortly after the Gulf War, beginning with Iraqi Intel Agent Ramzi Yousef plotting the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993. Have you forgotten or do your left-wing sources simply keep you ignorant?



The cost of war is a duty and burden spelled out by the US Constitution. The cost of government-controlled health care is nowhere to be found within the limited duties allowed to our Federal Government. By definition, the Democrat plan is tyranny.

I hope you learned something today.

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Originally posted by mimigirl:
Please prove me wrong on the costs of these wars. Call me all of the names you want, there's no denying that these "wars" have cost our country in more ways than just financial.

If you don't want to use the governments plan, continue with your current coverage. I would and plan on doing so.

By the way Capt. I normally look forward to what you post, whether I agree or not, but your name calling is really beneath you.

Just like with auto insurance, the people who don't have it cost all of us in the end.

And YET, you're one of the biggest advocates for illegal aliens on this forum.

A LOGICAL thought would be that you would not want illegals here so there wouldn't be uninsured drivers killing people weekly in our county.

I am not an advocate for illegals. I have just pointed out that we are already paying for their healthcare through their visits to the ER.

That's not advocating for illegals.

I don't want anyone uninsured, whether it's medical or auto insurance.

Yes, we are forced to pay for them already, which is a major component of our health care crisis. We can't afford it, whether the money comes from our health insurance or from dollars the Feds will seize from us by force.

The ONLY option allowed for illegals is to FORCE THEM OFF US SOIL. That's what the Constitution says. So, if you're okay with our seized money paying for them through the Federal plan, you are an enemy to us Americans.

How do you suggest we force them off our soil?

Mexicans are not the only people in this country here illegally.

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Originally posted by mimigirl:
How do you suggest we force them off our soil?

Mexicans are not the only people in this country here illegally.

Round them all up and send them all back. Period!

I am waiting for my numbers to be proven wrong, not just told that they are wrong.

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Round them up how? I want to know how.

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Originally posted by mimigirl:
How do you suggest we force them off our soil?

It's not that hard. It's been done before. All that matters is that a leader plug his ears to the endless screaming and wailing of "racism" coming from the Left and get the job done.

"Operation Wetb@ck"
How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico
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As for keeping the criminal invaders out, that too can be accomplished. The Minutemen have demonstrated as much - though their numbers would need to be increased.

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Mexicans are not the only people in this country here illegally.

True. All illegals must be removed. Yet, if you look at Kona's tagline, you'll understand WHY Mexicans are the greatest threat to this nation. Only one line is missing from it...

The illegal invaders, who do not consider themselves Americans, have the numerical strength to outvote Americans

If you are an American, you will fight tooth and nail to prevent this foreign invasion from succeeding. If you are our enemy, you will dismiss or distract from it any way you can.

Choose sides.

Medicare is going broke. Sixty billion paid from this plan is fraud. Liberals want all Americans under a plan like this?

Medicare initially paid private rates. Now, private insurers make up the difference in the payment gaps. Plus, HR 3962 allows an appointed “Health Choices Commissioner” to define precisely what private health plans must, may and may not cover, as well as what premiums insurers can charge. So even if this public option is less then before this bill already puts Americans in government-run health plans, even if it’s technically through private insurers.

The House bill would create an explosion in welfare spending. Maybe members of Congress forgot this, but Medicaid is a welfare program for the poor. It’s also one of the worst-performing public health programs. Instead of doing anything innovative to fix Medicaid and its out-of-control spending growth, HR 3962 throws more money at the problem and increases the eligibility of American families able to get into the program. Americans are going to be in for a rude surprise when they’re stuck in a Medicaid program, which has been shown to have fewer doctors and benefits than its private counterpart.

The feds are in charge of your health insurance benefits.

"Of all tyrannies, one sincerely exercised for the 'good' of its victims
is most oppressive. It is better to live under robber-barons than under
omnipotent moral-busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sleep sometimes,
and his lust may, at long-last, be satisfied. But, who torment us 'for
our own good,' will do so without ceasing, because they do it with the
approval of their own consciences."

CS Lewis