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Originally posted by kenk91645:
Speak - Like I said before go to any American Nazi party meeting or for that matter a KKK rally and state you are a Communist.

Why? As I said, one Marxist group will happily paint another as the enemy in order to gain its own power.

Tell me, was the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics a communist operation?

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Plenty of extreme right wing rhetoric is expressed at these gatherings.

Like what? I ask again for examples.

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Be careful Speak - your McCarthyism is showing

THANK YOU!!

The Hidden Truth About Joseph McCarthy - Venona Cables Decrypted
Link

Remember, Joe McCarthy WAS wrong. He seriously UNDER-ESTIMATED the extent of Soviet operations within our own government.

When I retired, I took in my BC, that pretty one with the foot print on it to S.S. It was good enough for them.

My guess we are about the same age.

WIRE

My dear Hillgal - Nothing personal about it - I really don't know why you think I am painting you to be a liar. I really don't believe that. I just said you were lucky with using your hospital certificate. If you feel that somehow implied that you were lying, I apologize. You do seem to be getting a bit overworked about it. I wonder what you would do if you were really challenged over your identity or citizenship. I have a feeling the cops would be called in to handle the dispute.

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Originally posted by kenk91645:
My dear Hillgal - Nothing personal about it - I really don't know why you think I am painting you to be a liar. I really don't believe that. I just said you were lucky with using your hospital certificate. If you feel that somehow implied that you were lying, I apologize. You do seem to be getting a bit overworked about it. I wonder what you would do if you were really challenged over your identity or citizenship. I have a feeling the cops would be called in to handle the dispute.

Pretty cute!

A "COLB" and a "Birth Certificate" are 100% DIFFERENT CREATURES...

Obama has shown a "COLB" all this document can LEGALLY CERTIFY is he was BORN ALIVE. A COLB is missing several components of a BIRTH CERTIFICATE....making it valid for EXACTLY Jack and $h*t...

A "COLB" (Certificate Of Live Birth) will NOT:

Get you a Bank Account

A Passport

On a little league team

A Home Loan

A job as a White House Custodian

A Drivers License....

But apparently it's plenty of certification to LEAD THE FREE WORLD.....


NO ONE ....except ALLEGEDLY ONE HAWAIIAN "Official" has SEEN A "BIRTH CERTIFICATE" for BO...and she has testified it "exists"....not what it says in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM..just that one "exists".....

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Originally posted by mis.anthropos:

In another of Taitz's birther cases, a judge fined her $20,000 for "abus[ing] her privilege to practice law" by bringing suits "without a reasonable basis for believing that they are supported by existing law." Taitz has said she won't pay.

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Well OF COURSE she wont pay....

This will FORCE the Judge to dismiss his own lame ruling.

If he doesn't wake up ..and decides to pursue his 20K MISTAKE.

Orly will be entitled to DISCOVERY of the EXACT documents she wishes to see, to prove her case isn't frivolous at all...

This Judge will bend over to Orly, it already happened once with another Lawyer....

Do your homework.

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Originally posted by mis.anthropos:
When you're a mental midget, every molehill looks like a mountain.

Is that why you never post any original thought or content of your own? Too many mountains in your way?

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Originally posted by kenk91645:
By the way Speak, Nazi doctrine is generally accepted by the extreme far right. Communist doctrine is generally accepted by the extreme far left. They share a few common ideals but they are in direct conflict with each other. Remember WWII? Nazi's and Communists hate each other and still do. You tend to use this terminology collectively and interchangeably thus confusing your position. If you don't believe this go and attend an American Nazi party meeting, claim you're a Communist and see what happens - I will await your obituary.

First and foremeost, I am not guessing, my mother was born in 1942 Germany during WWII. Hitler and the Nazis were Socialists. Not fascists and not communists. And, Socialism and Communism are not in direct conflict with each other, either. Both are forms of collectivism, anyone with half a brain knows this.

Second, the Union of the Soviet Socialist Republic (Russia) and Nazi (National Socialist Party) Germany were in a peace treaty together, until Germany needed Russian resources. They were pretty much on the same side until that happened, which is why the USSR remained neutral.

Oh no! Another group demanding proof!:

POLITICS
Afterbirthers Demand To See Obama's Placenta
AUGUST 27, 2009 | ISSUE 45•35

WASHINGTON–In the continuing controversy surrounding the president's U.S. citizenship, a new fringe group informally known as "Afterbirthers" demanded Monday the authentication of Barack Obama's placenta from his time inside his mother's womb. "All we are asking is that the president produce a sample of his fetal membranes and vessels—preferably along with a photo of the crowning and delivery—and this will all be over," said former presidential candidate and Afterbirthers spokesman Alan Keyes, later adding that his organization would be willing to settle for a half-liter of maternal cord plasma. "To this day, the American people have not seen a cervical mucus plug, let alone one that has been signed and notarized by a state-certified Hawaiian health official. If the president was indeed born in the manner in which he claims, then where is his gestation sac?" Keyes said that if Obama did not soon produce at least a bloody bedsheet from his conception, Afterbirthers would push forward with efforts to exhume the president's deceased mother and inspect the corpse's pelvic bone and birth canal.

Hack - You jump in late and then you totally talk out of your ass with regard to COLB's. COLB's and more recently Certified Abstracts of Birth are both certified legal government issued documents that prove birth. Most records are now computerized and you would likely get one similiar to the second image if you requested one now.

These two were issued to my two boys after they were born. Around 1990 the county changed to a CAOB. They were both used and accepted for school, little league, basketball, drivers license, bank accounts, passport's and college.

You becha they're good enough.

My birth certificate and my wife's is a microfiche copy of a COLB printed on official certification paper issued by the county of birth.

I won't bore you anymore. Do some research on the subject before you open your mouth with inaccurate information

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Originally posted by kenk91645:

One is a Certificate of Live Birth . Has a place for Mother and Father on it.

CAOB Certified Abstract Of Birth
Is merely a bastard certification, as it only lists the Mother, and no place for a Father.
That's where liberals come from, animal husbandry.
Few to no animals can sign their name.

Real true bastards can't prove they were born or where it might have taken place.

There... are the real facts.

Ken- if Obama's web-displayed COLB was the proof that would resolve the matter LEGALLY, then he would have no problem simply presenting it to a Judge to resolve the matter. That would save the DNC hundreds of thousands of dollars in attorney's fees currently devoted to blocking any court from actually examining the paperwork.

The fact remains:

OBAMA FIGHTS TO PREVENT LEGAL VERIFICATION THAT HE IS LEGALLY PRESIDENT.

Whatever - been there, discussed it before. zzzzz

Yup. And, all this chat about COLBs being legal documents or not is a red herring. Obama himself apparently believes it is worth over a million dollars in lawyer's fees to prevent legal examination of the document the DNC put on a "friendly" website to manipulate the stupid people.

This is, in fact, a conspiracy to prevent verification of whether Obama can legally serve as President.

It is a coup.