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Originally posted by kenk91645:
Whatever - been there, discussed it before. zzzzz

Too bad you're 100% wrong....I'm guessing your used to it though.

COLB or in your case CAOB = Worthless document it doesn't list enough information to be a "Legal" document.It merely says YES THIS PERSON WAS BORN ALIVE. And if your claiming to have enrolled your kids or gotten them Passports with said CAOB your full of horseshit.That CAOB or in BO's case a COLB will NOT get you...

ANY of the items I listed..nor a Passport.....



KenK answer me this.

WHY

WHY

WHY would BO be spending Hundreds of Thousands/ (millions)of dollars to block the discovery of:

An ACTUAL CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH - With a Dr's signature and hospital listed?

Why block discovery of Passport documents??

Highschool documents??

College Documents??

KINDERGARTEN DOCUMENTS??


MOST CANDIDATES for President have ALL of this info out there WAAAAY before. they're even their parties nominee...


Why is Barry , different?

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Originally posted by Speak2Truth:

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Originally posted by kenk91645:
By the way Speak, Nazi doctrine is generally accepted by the extreme far right.

You're completely wrong on that.

The Leader of the Socialist Worker's Party, Adolf Hitler, is as Leftist as you can get.

Leftists will use the "threat" of other leftists to get themselves into power if their propaganda and national experience has first worked up a public perception of those other Leftists as a looming threat.

Today's Communists, right here in America, ardently proclaim that "Communism is dead!". Don't ever believe the words coming out of a Leftist's mouth. To them, words are tools of manipulation, not expression of honestly held beliefs.

Adolf was the epitome of the Leftist dictator in all that he said and did. His professed ideology came straight from Marx (and Darwin).

HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST - John J. Ray (M.A.; Ph.D.)
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The Nazis Were Marxists
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And, BTW, Leftists made up "Godwin's Law" to deflect honest conversation away from exposing them. It's merely a childish attempt to hide from honest discussion. It ain't a law. I laugh at it.

Here, learn the difference between the Right and the Left...

The American Form of Government - Comparison of types of government
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Hitler WAS the leader of the original NAZI party. But he has been dead for over 60 years.

The modern, NEO-NAZI adheres to a right wing mentality.

Hanover, I have heard that assertion too many times. Can you provide EXAMPLES of the "right wing" mentality to which the neo-NAZIs adhere?

It seems clear to me that they still adhere to the Left-wing ideology of Hitler. The same anti-Judaism is there, the racist superiority notions, violent brutality against anyone not of their race, the alliance with Islamists against Jews... it is all still there. It's as if they are still graduates of the Hitler Youth movement.

You're talking out of your ass Hack. You can call the county recorders office yourself and see that these are legal certified and accepted documents of birth for all the things you state are not. I know you won't because you will believe only what you believe. The very chance someone would burst your bubble is frightening to you.

Truth - Here you go. Start here.
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NatGeo did a very good documentary series on the neo-nazi's and it plays every so often. They are very much a far right group. You need to watch it. Be afraid - be very afraid. They resonate well with the far right. Their positions on guns, immigration, religion and liberals all focus on far right beliefs and have been very attractive to the bottom of the base of the republican party.

Ken - despite the left's assertion that they are a "far right" movement, it is utter BS. They were, are and always shall be a leftist bunch, just like Hitler made them to be.

Remember, the origins of the Socialist NAZI party were VERY closely tied to Lenin's Communist movement. Only for political convenience did they later declare themselves "enemies" of Communism and revise their political indoctrination. Here's a bit of history on the Communist/NAZI origins...


Video: Socialist roots of the NAZIs.
Closely allied with Communists/Lenin in the beginning.
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Hitler (a radical Marxists) had a position on guns that they carry on - that guns shall serve the Race and the State, and be denied to the rest.

The NAZI reaction to the flood of immigrants is the ONE notion where conservatives in the US might find common cause. No nation can survive a foreign invasion. Yet, conservatives do not have the same VIEW on the immigrants as the neo-NAZIs. They don't get violent and try to wage "ethnic cleansing" because it is NOT about Race for conservatives. The neo-NAZIs are racists, not mere defenders of their nation. Unlike the Leftists neo-NAZIs, conservatives/Republicans are comfortable with people of ALL races.

Religion? I don't see Republicans waging war against Jews. Jews are quite welcome among conservatives/Republicans.

Sorry, but those lame-assed sites trying to paint these radical Socialists into the same group as conservatives/Republicans are dead wrong.

The neo-NAZIs are quite the opposite of Republicans in most respects and continue to reflect their Marxist hate-training.

They do not resonate well with the Right.

They are creations of the Left.

And, if you listen to folks like Reverend Wright, you'll see a new racial group being conditioned with THE SAME RHETORIC that was used to create the leftist monsters the neo-NAZIs are. The Marxist Rev. Wright (and other black 'progressives' like him) merely preach to a different racial group.

Then we have Marxist agitators doing the same thing with the Aztlan movement. Same exact rhetoric and racial hate-programming that was used on the NAZIs.

I have never, EVER witnessed that among conservatives/Republicans.

I have ONLY witnessed that among leftists/Democrats.

Don't believe the lie. They are and always shall be the product of Leftist Hate Programming.

Truth - Believe what you want but the Neo-Nazi movement is a right wing organization. Not republican but an independent right wing group.

Not all socialism is the same. If you have done any research on the matter rather than just using the term indiscriminately as you do, you would know that.

You're history is basically correct but it is just that - history. Alliances and philosophical differences between socialist groups that once were true 70 years ago have changed - some quite dramatically as the right wing Neo-Nazi movement has shown to be. They are certainly not leftist. As I said walk into one of their compounds and announce your a Communist, or a leftist for that matter, and see what happens. (better have your running shoes on.)

Neo-Nazi's are not Republicans, they are Neo-Nazi's. Neo-Nazi's are not Democrats, they are Neo-Nazi's. As far as some of their beliefs go they do hold many of the same values as some of the less educated Republican base does. That is where they recruit from. The strong anti-immigrant position they hold is one of their main recruiting tools and they openly state that.


Neo-Nazi's do not recruit from the left - they are more likely to shoot one on sight rather than try to convert one.

You are describing the hatred for Communists held by the original NAZIs as well - but only AFTER they changed their political rhetoric. Hatred for some other Leftist groups does NOT make them the opposite of Leftists.

Heck, even Muslim groups (like Sunni and Shia) hate each other but they're still Muslims. If you're Sunni and walk into a Shia gathering and announce it - better have your running shoes on. But those Shiites are still Muslims as well.

Neo-NAZIs still cling to the Leftist programming of their origins including deep hatred for Jews and for "inferior" races and a violent sense of racial superiority and entitlement. That's all left-wing stuff. Fascist stuff.

Interesting to me is that they still are okay allying themselves with radical Islamists, despite racial hatred for "r@gheads", because Islamists also deeply hate (and kill) Jews. That goes all the way back to Hitler's SS, which had an Islamist division for that same reason.

Not all Leftists are the same - but they are somewhat consistent in the ideology they teach, especially rabid racial hatred as well as hatred for Jews. Today's NAZIs still cling to their roots.

What is a right-winger anyway? In the USA, it is someone who clings to traditional American principles, such as individual liberty, equality among all persons and religions, freedom to pursue prosperity and so on.

I find nothing right-wing about the neo-NAZIs, despite some Wikipedia sophistry.

This short video helps explain the difference between the Right and Left. It is clear to me which side the neo-NAZIs stand upon.

The American Form of Government - Comparison of types of government
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I still don't understand why anyone would call them a right-wing group. They never were. So, why?

Because they are and have always been recognized as such along with the KKK. Homeland Security labeled these groups as being dangerous right wing terrorist groups - this was back during the previous administration by the way. Radical left wing groups have been popular too. SDS(Students for a Democratic Society), The Black Panthers, The hippie movement, and our own bay area group, the SLA (Symbionese Liberation Army - responsible for the Patty Hearst kidnapping).

Sorry you can't swallow the label that they are right wing. It is both sad and humorous when you find a source that conflicts with your point of view you label it liberal rubbish whether that label is true or not.

All the judge had to do is go online and type in "Obama birth certificate" and he would find over a dozen of them.
With so many, I think the judge needs to provide us with due dilligence.

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Originally posted by kenk91645:

Sorry you can't swallow the label that they are right wing. It is both sad and humorous when you find a source that conflicts with your point of view you label it liberal rubbish whether that label is true or not.

I simply won't tolerate the word-games that Lefties play to deflect attention away from what they really are. It is that simple.

The NAZIs have always been a hate-indoctrinated Leftist group. There is nothing remarkable about their behavior today - it is the same as their behavior when they were taking over Germany as Brownshirts.

As for the SUBJECT OF THIS THREAD...

Obama and the DNC would rather pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to laywers to FIGHT legal verification of the documents that would show whether he can legally serve as President than simply resolve the matter.

The Left have staged a coup in this country.

Those words mean exactly what they say.

That's a cute one Fiscal - works for me. I like it! Works better than a COLB with the photo and everything!